The miserable end to the campaign has left a dark shadow, and it has all unravelled very quickly. David Moyes is now on thin ice among the fanbase, and so is Angus Kinnear after his soundbite-chasing statement ahead of the final home game of the season.

Seven games without a win in the Premier League is Moyes’s joint-worst ever run as Everton boss, across both his spells in charge. It has come at the worst possible time.

Up until the break after the Chelsea game, Everton had accumulated 1.5 points per game across Moyes’s second stint. In that time, between 11 January 2025 and 22 March 2026, the Toffees had earned the 6th-highest points tally in the Premier League in that time.

It wasn’t perfect: Moyes’s development of certain players left a lot to be desired, but there should have really been few complaints.

Fast forward just two months, and it’s all very different.

Everton’s dismal finish has been compounded by Aston Villa — a club similar in stature and tradition — winning their first major trophy in decades. Unai Emery, an elite manager, has taken them to European success, and it has been richly deserved, too.

Then, there is the matter of which teams have qualified for Europe.

Andoni Iraola’s fantastic job at Bournemouth has been capped off by taking them to 6th. Sunderland, meanwhile, beat Everton and then Chelsea to surge from 12th to 7th and get into the Europa League. A year ago, they were winning the Championship play-off final before embarking on a full squad overhaul. Brighton, meanwhile, went on a run of one win in 13 games across the winter and early spring, and lost their last two games, yet they have finished 8th — enough for Conference League qualification.

Everton have dropped like a stone and finished the season in 13th, just like last year, with just one more point than they achieved in 2024-25. In the meantime, their marquee summer signing (at least in terms of transfer fee) has hardly played, and too many other players have not been used enough. Key players have then failed to deliver in the run-in and Moyes has been unable, or unwilling, to adapt.

Fan unrest is clear, and it feels like the majority would now rather see Everton change manager.

But Kinnear seems to have made TFG’s position clear: They do not plan on changing.

Whether they change the manager or not, though, the club must act decisively this summer.

If they are to change Moyes, it should be done this week. I doubt that will happen, but they cannot let the situation drag on if they are pondering it. Just make the call and make it quickly.

Likewise, if they stick with him, then some open and honest communication with the fanbase would be sensible. Quit the soundbites: Make it clear that you acknowledge what could have gone better, while also demonstrating what went well. No more burying heads in the sand.

And then it comes to the most important matter, which is signing players.

Regardless of the manager, Everton should know which players they need to target, which positions to fill. They need to operate at speed, with urgency and efficiency.

Moyes has his flaws, but he wasn’t wrong to be frustrated with the glacial speed Everton operated at last year.

Then, the full transfer committee wasn’t in place. Now, there’s no such excuse. Targets must be identified, sounded out to ensure their interest, and then deals must either be struck or Everton should move on to Plan B.

The fear is, Everton love an excuse. They love a caveat. They will point to the six-week World Cup as a blocker, even if they were happy to brief back in January that they were “keeping their powder dry” for a free run in the summer.

That failure to act in January with a significant signing, in my opinion, played a big part in the failure to capitalise on a fantastic opportunity this season. Now, Everton must make up for it.

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Everton will wait until the World Cup is over and all the teams who qualified for Europe, plus Spurs, Chelsea and Newcastle have filled their squads.

Then we will battle with the likes of Forest, Leeds and the newbies from the Championship for the old lags and untried kids who are still available. It's not going to be good viewing.

Enjoy your summer, ToffeeWebbers, and put Everton to bed, until August. That's what the club will be doing.

2 Posted 27/05/2026 at 09:20:22

Whatever threads come up between now and next season, could they please not be accompanied by pictures of Moyes.

3 Posted 27/05/2026 at 09:38:44

I think you are right and I need to curb any enthusiasm for getting a new manager or indeed top players. I can already see a new thread asking who should we have as our new manager and my thoughts are simply this. What is the point in dreaming of a new manager?

It is going to be Moyes and when we finish 10th next season they will see that as progress and that will see him staying on until 2028. So depressing -- and we cannot change a thing by venting our spleen on here.

4 Posted 27/05/2026 at 09:58:48

I don't want to see managers sacked.

I don't even think Moyes has done an awful job because he hasn't but you have to always be looking for progress and a step up.

There will be a better manager to move this club forward -- we just don't know it yet and many are too scared to look for it because there are mentally scarred by recent years.

At the end of the day when I look back at this season, I'll not be able to shake from my thought with three halves of football remaining we were above the team that finished 7th and we end up 13th.

There can't be any room whatsoever in football for sentiment, and I said at the end of the 2023-24 season we should have shaken Sean Dyche by the hand and looked at making the next step up even then.

There was too much honour and loyalty because he helped the club stabilize after the points deduction, there can be no room for it.

Look at Sir Alex Ferguson in the '90s and early part of this century, building great United sides, he would win the Double one year then still want to sign a better, goalkeeper, defender, striker because he knew, football doesn't stand still.

At Everton, it's like football has stood still for 40 years, which is why every season is a virtual cut and paste from the previous, with the odd last day relegation scrap thrown in just for good measure.

5 Posted 27/05/2026 at 10:21:11

Jack @1 precisely. And seeing as Moyes will be punditing at the ever so cheap World Cup, then there is no way any business will get done.

World-class players could be lining up around the block at Finch Farm to sign up for free and the club's response would be: "We're closed. Go away."

Jim@ 4 - Yes Moyes made us safe, to a point, except during the last 8 games, where he couldn't grab a point for Toffee.

The end-of-season collapse was alarming and doesn't bode well.

I don't buy into the players "being tired" shit. Most played once a week, no cups, no europe. Only a few International players. Their fault, along with Moyes. So there could be no excuses about exhaustion. Theyall failed.

No one with a half-decent football brain would come here with that awful, bare bones squad. Plus a shit academy that's been relegated to the lowest tier of the academy league, with no one remotely looking like they might make the grade.

Everton's problem is Everton.

Everyone involved (apart from Everton in the Community) are really incompetent, clueless, woeful, not fit for purpose at the job they are employed to do -- and I include the owner(s).

Still no infrastructure of note in anything football. Backwards in about every department conceivable and have been for over half a century, just getting worse every season.

Kinnear is the worst person to have here, at any time. He has openly stated that the manager is here next season and that there is no money, so expect nothing.

So Moyes is going nowhere, like Everton, sadly.

6 Posted 27/05/2026 at 10:37:33

If we get a new manager we have 5-6 new players instantly. More if you include moving players to their correct positions.

We didn’t need a big signing in January, we needed players like Patterson, Aznou, Röhl, Alcaraz and Dibling to be utilised effectively within a squad rotation system. This would have made them ready to play a bigger part towards the end as other players tired.

Our squad right now is pretty decent and should have come in that 6-10th bracket. It needs 2-3 quality signings and we have an issue at centre back with Keane and Tarkowski in decline and Branthwaite apparently an ongoing injury risk. A right-back to replace Coleman, replacements (or renewals) for Grealish and George and then upgrades on Barry and McNeil would be it all it really takes.

If we keep Moyes though, we’ve basically got no chance of achieving anything no matter what. He seems to take pride in being stubborn and failing to learn.

7 Posted 27/05/2026 at 11:02:44

At the end of the day, this club hasn't won a trophy since Joe Royle was the manager.

Surely we want that to change?

How can anyone at the club be so comfortable with a monumental trophy drought.

8 Posted 27/05/2026 at 12:35:44

Has Kinnear gone on the record to say there is no money? That would be disappointing but maybe not surprising.

9 Posted 27/05/2026 at 15:51:13

Jim 7.

They're not bothered, the board and the manager actually don't like Evertonians, Moyes has actually treated us with disdain these last couple of months, with his comments to Joe Thomas and his going on about non penalty decisions.

We all know var is a mess, but because we haven't had a couple of decisions in our favour the last few games isn't an excuse.

Is it var's fault Moyes keeps picking that same abysmal back 4, or giving limited, and I mean very limited time to Rohl George Dibling Alcaraz and Armstrong while our "superstar" is supposedly dead on his feet.

No all on Moyes that I'm afraid and when we see us being linked with shite like Wan Bissaka Soucek Trippier etc it makes the blood boil.

But while we continue to tread water in the prem not fighting relegation having cup runs etc this board and manager will continue to congratulate themselves on doing a great job.

10 Posted 27/05/2026 at 16:15:44

The absent owners need to show their intentions. Or sell the club and fuck off.

Enough already. Especially the Roma love in.

It’s a disgrace.

11 Posted 27/05/2026 at 17:02:17

What did the Evertonians' sing to the Moyesiah at Old Trafford, The first time we played them with him as Manures manager.He came out after it and said, the Everton away supporters were a disgrace. Anyone know ?

12 Posted 27/05/2026 at 17:09:53

The way our season fizzled out, and Moyes refusing to even give the younger players a chance, apart from 10/15 min's against Spurs, where he admitted they made a big difference, I don't think he's ambitious enough to take us forward, but if the owners are sticking with him, it's essential he gets all our transfer business done before the World Cup, or at least give a list of players to the CEO, and not have to wait until he's finished his punditry at the World Cup, and try and buy players who no one else wants, which was the norm for us.

13 Posted 27/05/2026 at 18:29:27

I remember it Jack, all too well like it was yesterday.

It was April 2014, the Grim Reaper match lol, something like "stuck with Moyes stuck with Moyes Man United, playing football the negative way".

The heady days of us hitting 72 points, winning 21 matches of our 38 with Bobby Martinez, we all felt certain that summer that tangible success was just around the corner.

14 Posted 27/05/2026 at 20:26:54

I saw a comment he made eluding to a cautious approach to this summer spending but am buggered if I can find it now.

However here are some quotes from him which I have lifted from a May article on the Everton FC official website :-

Thierno Barry . shown potential to be Everton starter

Expect more crap players

Equally important were the players we were able to re-sign with Michael Keane and Idrissa Gana Gueye returning to play central roles as regular starters.

Heavy investment in Gorilla Glue has been made

Whilst the media and other fanbases clamour for frequent managerial change, we value the stability that David brings and the ability this gives the whole Club to plan for the long term

Moyesosaurus is here long time Jonny

Our ownership remain committed to every incremental penny of this growth being invested back on the pitch to deliver against our primary objective of winning more football matches.

Incremental - An increase through SMALL addition. not a massive input.

His whole diatribe of masked superlatives is something that proves he is full of bull and I have taken an instant disliking to him.

Remember Moyes clambering for more players. (Due to the previous dof + regimes incompetence leaving the club with only 12 contracted professionals). Also demanding more PL ready players, last summer and we know how well that went.

I hope (like I have for the last half century or so) that the club do something fkin decent in the window.

Being a realist. I know the answer.

15 Posted 27/05/2026 at 20:33:24

The Grim Reaper game was played at Goodison Park — 3-0 to the Blues and the Grim Reaper was escorted out of the ground sometime in the second half — and he was just sitting quietly watching the game.

It might have been when the third goal went in. I didn't half feel sorry for Mr Moyes but not as sorry as Alex Ferguson, who gave him the job, never even got a season out of him.

16 Posted 27/05/2026 at 20:35:49

The delight in the away end that night is the reason people prefer to watch games from inside the stadium rather than on the television, Jack.

You could see it in the face of everyone who was singing that they meant every word, much to the dismay of the Moyesiah who was finally seeing the Toffees winning at Old Trafford with his own eyes.

17 Posted 27/05/2026 at 21:29:45

TFG bought the club from Moshiri because they got a great deal and their sole aim ( as far as I can see ) is to make money from their investment with the new stadium etc.

Don't forget these guys were holding off hoping for an even better deal with Moshiri becoming so desperate to sell - they were playing the waiting game, and it was only when Textor threw a spanner in the works they opened talks with Moshiri again.

Yeah that's what billionaire business people do - but buying football clubs is different and they have zero connection with the fanbase or people as far as I can see.

After reading some stuff about TFG and their sports portfolio business's my take is they don't really care unless their investment is in danger - it's all about making money for them.

If they were serious in moving us forward, they would be sacking Moyes.

Correct me if I'm wrong, that the main man has not put his foot in the new stadium or Goodison since taking over, his son has visited once.

I think this a disgrace and sends out a poor message from him to Evertonians especially those in the city.

We are all grateful that Moshiri is gone and yes the TFG group have made improvements in the the running of the club ( off the pitch ), but we all want a hell of lot more from them on it !

18 Posted 28/05/2026 at 03:03:05

To be fair Oliver mate, Saint Daniel the Absent together with his eldest were present at the Alfred Dunlop Links Championship at St. Andrews on Sunday October 5 last year when we were beating 2025-2026 three-time trophy winners Palace at The Dock on the same day.

St. Andrews Old Course is only 282 miles from HDS, so the absent one was pretty close by Texan standards at any rate.

19 Posted 28/05/2026 at 03:04:19

Tony@16. What were they actually singing to make him, call them a disgrace ?

20 Posted 28/05/2026 at 07:43:05

I couldn't give a flying frijole whether Dan Friedkin ever shows up for a game. (It seems kinda dumb to buy a club and not go, but he didn't ask me.)

Nor do I really care that he hasn't told us his plans and ambitions. (He's not gonna do that anyway so there's no point in pining for it.)

And I don't think sacking Moyes shows his commitment to the club.

I think how he shows commitment is hiring the right people and supporting them. I hope he's giving James Smith the wherewithal to build the worldwide scouting network we need, like he had at City. I hope he's giving Nick Cox the resources to build the same kind of academy system he built at ManUtd. We won't know about either one.

But we'll know if he's giving the manager the cash to rebuild the squad. Not just like last summer's record spend that was mostly a rescue project, but a real commitment this summer to bring in the 5 (or so) quality players we need. We will know immediately if he follows through or not.

Sorry, Martin #5, but you're called on that BS. Kinnear hasn't said one word about there being no money. The reason you can't find a comment"eluding to a cautious approach to this summer spending" is because it's your own invention. Kinnear never said it. Never even hinted at it.

21 Posted 28/05/2026 at 08:04:24

The drop in form was alarming over the last seven games and the Spurs game summed up where we are at:- No evident tactics, strange team selection and formations, years without a recognised right full back. This “ on the beach “ stuff, squad size and fatigue doesn’t wash. That performance was dire.

This bunch of misfits should be broken up and some moved on, for yet another rebuild. The only improvement last season was a more comfortable league position, until the last seven games.

22 Posted 28/05/2026 at 08:19:29

". Not just like last summer's record spend"

Mike, shows the levels we are at, and have been, re the record spend you mention.

Club spend for 2025/26

Hes got a fair way to go to match any of that spending.

Nice rant... heavy on invective... but a little light on facts, sadly.

A shit academy that's been relegated to the lowest tier of the academy league.

Oh dear... such a bizarrely false statement renders the rest of your post moot.

Firstly, in general terms, Everton's Academy is a Category 1, so thehighest tier, not the lowest tier of the Professional Development League under Engish football's Elite Player Performance Plan.

The Academy has multiple teams:

Everton U18s finished 4th out of 14 in theU18 Premier League (North) . Not too shabby.

Everton U21s finished a less creditable 18th in the compositePremier League 2 tableof the 29 top Category 1 sides, and got the semi-finals of a new-fangled playoff against the top 8 teams of the Professional Development League 2.

So... "a shit academy"? Interesting how many Evertonians like to perpetulate that rather erroneous claim.

24 Posted 28/05/2026 at 09:17:42

Can you elaborate on this academy system that Cox, built at United, if possible Mike. I did read something in the past but, Manchester United, have always brought very talented kids through, which probably means they have always had a proper system in place.

When Brands came in, Everton sacked Martin Waldron, who became the fall guy for some illegal misdemeanour, and I don’t think that our academy has been the same since.

I’ve heard that Everton, have reappointed a man who has had a long association with the academy, Neil Dewsnip, so it will be interesting to see what happens with regards the academy.

There has been a lot of arguments or debates on ToffeeWeb, over the years regarding coaching, with my own view being that this is the area which I would be looking to improve the most.

I hear people saying that our scouting system finishes somewhere on the M6 motorway, but we live in a real hotbed of talent, (look at the great players who have come just from the radius that covers Merseyside and Greater Manchester) so before we even start thinking about how far to extend our radius, my own view is that we should be focusing on forming a coaching strategy, that can bring on young talent, better than our rivals.

Sorry Jack, it was the song that Jim, reeled off earlier in the thread mate, but I think it was aimed at the United fans in the ground, rather than our overachieving manager, mate.

STUCK WITH MOYES - STUCK WITH MOYES MAN UTD - STUCK WITH MOYES I SAY - STUCK WITH MOYES - STUCK WITH MOYES MAN UTD - PLAYING FOOTBALL THE NEGATIVE WAY.

25 Posted 28/05/2026 at 09:25:31

Mike (21) Mike you have your opinion about how TFG might operate the club in the future, I hope they perform that way, in the meantime I think Oliver @ (18) makes a good case of what they did to buy the club and making money is what they are all about which of course is what businessmen do — so I really hope they are very successful and their success matches ours on the field, where it really matters to Everton fans, looking at them up to now I’m not very impressed although it is early days but actions will always mean more than words— let’s see if Kinnear, Smith and Cox raise our club’s performance in every department on the playing field.

26 Posted 28/05/2026 at 09:51:48

It’s a massive debate about coaching strategy’s, because there are so many different ways to look at it, imo.

You could argue that Everton, have got certain things right because of the sheer numbers that go onto make a good living out of the game in the lower levels, which shows that they must be preparing the kids with a certain degree of mental toughness to succeed, in the professional game?

I’ve heard it said that a lot of the kids, who leave Man City, really struggle, because once they do they no longer play for a team that totally manipulates the ball, and I’ve heard that some of the young fullbacks, that leave City for example, suddenly look like completely different players, because they have never been taught the art of defending. (Nathan Patterson, probably fits this bill?)

You could really tell the kid, who now plays for Newcastle, who made his debut for Southampton, in the opening game of the season at Goodison, a few years ago, (Livermento not correct spelling - something I found out because I was very impressed with him and someone in the crowd said they had just signed from Chelsea) had been coached properly, imo, and this made me look at Chelsea, that little bit closer.

I was very impressed with the strategy they put into place with a man called Frank Arnesan, I think? And I was even more impressed whenever I watched a few of kids, who had came through the Chelsea academy, because the way they treated the football, just gave me a feeling that they had been coached that little bit better, than everyone else?

Just opinions, and if I was to introduce a coaching method into teaching kids play now, then the whole of the footballing side of it would be based on first touch and movement. The other side would be based on a running track, because unfortunately for a lot of talented kids nowadays, because to be the best you have got to have a massive degree of athleticism. (Again imo)

27 Posted 28/05/2026 at 10:08:39

I have to disagree with you that Dan Friedkin not attending games is of little importance. All businesses are led from the very top and that means engaging with the most important people at the club and that's the fans. Dont know if you are old enough to remember Sir John Moores being our chairman, not only did he attend most games, but he got his chauffer to drop him off 100 yards from the directors entrance so he could talk and listen to what the fans are saying. So seeing as Friedkin doesn't attend any games he doesn't hear what the fans are saying.

He regularly attends the Dunhill Cup golf competition played every year at St Andrews and Kings Barns and Carnoustie golf courses in Scotland. Now I believe he flies his own plane so probably would take him no more than 45 minutes to fly from Scotland to Liverpool. But he cant be bothered yet supposedly can attend some Roma games. I really don't like this multi football club ownership that Yanks seem to like. But as Crystal Palace found to their cost with one of their owners John Textor owned another club who had also qualified for the Europa league it was Palace who were demoted to the Conference which they managed to win last night.

Friedkin said he had found a way round that if Roma and Everton qualified for the same competition, he didnt elaborate on what that plan was but quite frankly the rules are very explicit and they don't allow 2 clubs owned by th esame person to compete in a European competition.

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